tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-344589945668719463.post1591580188402667804..comments2023-05-28T04:14:26.946-05:00Comments on Because I said so: Genocide in DarfurKristinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08349303315589874175noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-344589945668719463.post-22971091062059933892009-01-08T10:37:00.000-06:002009-01-08T10:37:00.000-06:00Why is that Phelps, I truly want to believe that t...<B>Why is that Phelps, I truly want to believe that there is some valid reason other than these people are Africans. However what I see is that their lives are somehow less value than the Iraqi people and that there is little difference between the two other than skin color.</B><BR/><BR/>A lot of it is economic (that part really does come down to oil). Part of it is education -- Iraqis are fairly well educated. There was already a lot of infrastructure in place in Iraq. Iraq had a pre-Saddam functioning republic to draw from. Darfur is unfortunately barely above stone-age without imports. That means that we would have to start climbing that mountain from much further down.<BR/><BR/><B>You are going to have to explain that comment I am assuming you mean by the number of lives lost.</B><BR/><BR/>Money too. War is expensive. Liberty is expensive, even here (it costs a lot to keep the court systems running to protect liberty.)<BR/><BR/><B>I agree with this is part women; need to be taught how to defend themselves but, leveling the playing field does not stop the killing.</B><BR/><BR/>I think that shifting more of the deaths to the ones carrying out the genocide now would be a massive improvement. Not ideal, but better.<BR/><BR/><B>As a side note Phelps, places like Darfur and Somalia are growing a strong extremist Muslim presence. I would think it would be in our country’s, and those of the G8, to curtail the stronghold these extremist are gaining in these countries.</B><BR/><BR/>That's a main area where the will is lacking. We are too afraid of being accused of declaring war on Islam. We are too timid and too approval-seeking.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-344589945668719463.post-8527280625862821202009-01-02T12:05:00.000-06:002009-01-02T12:05:00.000-06:00“That, like Darfur, was a situation where we had t...<STRONG>“That, like Darfur, was a situation where we had the ability to stop it, but not the political will to devote the blood and treasure it would require.”</STRONG><BR/><BR/>Why is that Phelps, I truly want to believe that there is some valid reason other than these people are Africans. However what I see is that their lives are somehow less value than the Iraqi people and that there is little difference between the two other than skin color. <BR/><BR/><BR/><STRONG>Liberty has been, historically speaking, cheap in Iraq. I fear that it would be expensive in Darfur, and even with a horrible expenditure, still risky. (Relative liberty in Iraq was a sure thing given enough blood and treasure.)</STRONG><BR/><BR/>You are going to have to explain that comment I am assuming you mean by the number of lives lost. However, the same liberty you speak of in Iraq is costing the American people millions of dollars monthly that we don’t have. We are so heavily indebted to China that there can be little wonder why we don’t come down on them harder for their obvious involvement in keeping a country in continued strife. <BR/><BR/><STRONG>An unarmed woman cannot stand up to an unarmed man with genocidal intent, much less 10 men armed with machetes. A woman with an AK-47, on the other hand, can stand up to all of them, on even terms. Right now, it costs the murders nothing to massacre an entire village, because there is no one to resist them. We need to make that sort of action more expensive to them.</STRONG><BR/><BR/>I agree with this is part women; need to be taught how to defend themselves but, leveling the playing field does not stop the killing. <BR/><BR/>As a side note Phelps, places like Darfur and Somalia are growing a strong extremist Muslim presence. I would think it would be in our country’s, and those of the G8, to curtail the stronghold these extremist are gaining in these countries.Kristinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08349303315589874175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-344589945668719463.post-80511402105895001512009-01-02T10:23:00.000-06:002009-01-02T10:23:00.000-06:00My support for the war in Iraq has always been lib...My support for the war in Iraq has always been liberation oriented -- Saddam was a genocidal fascist and had to go. I've never hid that. I supported the war in Iraq because I thought that the political will was there to prosecute it to the end (I, like 99% of the world, thought that we would find WMDs).<BR/><BR/>I wish that the political will was there to stop the genocide in Darfur, but all we would have the will to do would be to make things worse, like we did with Somalia in Mogadishu. That, like Darfur, was a situation where we had the ability to stop it, but not the political will to devote the blood and treasure it would require.<BR/><BR/>Liberty has been, historically speaking, cheap in Iraq. I fear that it would be expensive in Darfur, and even with a horrible expenditure, still risky. (Relative liberty in Iraq was a sure thing given enough blood and treasure.) <BR/><BR/>I have to disagree with one thing, though. You can't stop the flow of weapons into a country. There are too many people with an interest in continuing the genocide that can fund the smuggling, and it is too easy to manufacture weapons when you have access to a machine shop. The only way to stop the weapons would be to throw Darfur into the stone age, which I cannot support. What we need is more weapons in the right hands.<BR/><BR/>An unarmed woman cannot stand up to an unarmed man with genocidal intent, much less 10 men armed with machetes. A woman with an AK-47, on the other hand, can stand up to all of them, on even terms. Right now, it costs the murders nothing to massacre an entire village, because there is no one to resist them. We need to make that sort of action more expensive to them.Phelpshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06270536870200063563noreply@blogger.com